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Name: Aaron Folsom | Gender: M | Member Since December 30, 2006
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Don't sleep on the O's

Posted on: March 28, 2008 4:43 pm
Edited on: April 8, 2008 8:24 pm
 

BALAll around the MLB fanbase, I have heard that the O's will finish lasy place in the AL East, that they will not win more than 50 games, and they will lose somewhere way over 100 games. I understand that some people believe the Bedard and Tejada trades were huge downgrades, but in reality, its not. Erik Bedard was a huge contributer to a 69 win Orioles team in 2007, but he was not fully there in April and missed all of September, ending the season of the Cy Young candidate. In the trade, the O's recieved two key pieces to this O's team in 2008, Adam Jones and George Sherrill. Jones stepped into the O's organization and was quickly granted a starting spot in center field over veteran Jay Payton. Jones has superstar potential, and will probably start slow, but should work out in a major way as the season progress'. Sherrill stepped in as the leading candidate for the closer role, vacant due to Tommy John surgery on Chris Ray. Not only will Sherrill be a key to the O's season, he will be a very good trade chip at the deadline, as well as the O's other two veteran relievers(Walker, Bradford). In that trade, the O's also reciever the M's Top Pitching Prospect, Chris Tillman(19) and one of the M's best pitching prospects, Tony Butler(20) and Ms relief prospect Kameron Mickolio(23). Mickolio could a be a helpful asset to this young O's team if any reliever get injured/traded.

 'I already forgot about it,' Erik Bedard says of allowing three runs and two walks in two innings. (AP)

~ O's new closer George Sherrill will be a big help for several reasons for the O's in 2008 while Erik Bedard trys to boost the Mariners to 1st in the AL West.

 


 

Now we go to the Tejada trade. The O's gave up a key component to there offense in 2007, but he was begining his slow down and was starting to be a cancer in the clubhouse. Orioles GM Andy MacPhail turned him around and found a good trade for him in the Astros, one day before his name was set to appear on the Mitchell Report. In the deal, he acquired 3 players that will help right off the bat. Those three are righty-starter Matt Albers, righty reliever Dennis Sarfate and outfielder Luke Scott. Albers has been compared to Curt Schilling and has talent to be a number 4 starter in this league. Sarfate, if Sherrill gets traded, would probably become the closer. He has a fastball that can reach 100 mph, and Luke Scott is a power bat the O's have needed for a while. Also in the deal, the O's recieved the 'Stros Top Pitching prospect in Troy Patton and power hitting third base prospect Mark Costanzo. Costanzo will get some time in at AAA before any moves up to the majors. He is currently blocked by Melvin Mora and third base prospect Scott Moore. Patton will miss the season with a torn labrum, and should come back by next year. The Astros will be getting a good shortstop who should return back to better power numbers in the small Minute Maid Park.

 


 

Both trades boosted the offense with a stud(Adam Jones, Luke Scott) and both gave the O's some young talent along with young pitchers. Out of the ten players acquired, 5 will be expected to be helpful to the O's in 2008. 2 of them are expected to see a call-up later in the season, one will miss the whole season. 7 of the 10 are 25 or young. 2 of the 10 are 20 or under. 2 of the 10 are Baseball America Top 100 prospects. Whatever happens in 2008, do not sleep on the O's to get 4th place. This team looks like a horrible team on paper, but are a unit of one, and together they stand, alone they fall. Let the game and the season, the sprited America's game, diside the outcome of the of the O's fatality.

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Posted on: March 28, 2008 10:33 pm

Don't sleep on the O's

There is no way that Baltimore will win fewer than 50 games and will probably have, at most, 95-100 losses.  Baltimore definitely has gotten slammed way more than they deserve to be slammed, also I still am not sure that the Bedard trade was a good idea.  However, I think it tough to say that Baltimore will finish above either of the four teams that the O's share a division with.  It is a nice change of pace for Rays fans such as myself to finally not be the preseason predicted last-place finisher.



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Posted on: March 29, 2008 4:05 am

Don't sleep on the O's

I think that the O's are given a raw deal, they have more talent at the dish than people think, and their relief pitching has the talent, but sometimes mental mistakes kill them, I see the O's winning about 70 games with Adam Loewen showing that he can the next great Canadian pitcher and have a 13-11 record with 3.91 ERA, 87 BB, 187 K



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Since: Mar 28, 2008
Posted on: March 29, 2008 9:02 am

Don't sleep on the O's

Look at the division. There is no way the O's will do better than third. I will give you... although I'm not too sure you are right... every example about the O'S being better and I will raise you the Yankees and the Sox. Not to mention their out of league schedule is TOUGH! No chance, no way, no problem saying so. They will be better than last year... but they, once again, have NO shot. Just a BEAUTIFUL ballpark.



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Posted on: March 29, 2008 9:51 am

Don't sleep on the O's

You'd be very hard pressed to find a realistic O's fan that believes they can finish better than fourth this season. .500 would be the ultimate accomplishment for this season.

...and the Yankees haven't exactly proven to be much of a problem in recent years. In '06 it took the last series between them for the Yanks to get above .500 against the O's, and last season the O's finished 9-9 against them (it could have been 10-8, but I will not get into an argument about umpires here). Now the Red Sox, I got no argument there, for some reason the O's like to lay down for them.



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Posted on: March 29, 2008 10:32 am

Don't sleep on the O's

good post big D..   

first off for those who think we are only gonna win 50 games, you people are morons ..   i believe last year's team was worse than this year's..   you had a bunch of veterans and very few of them cared and thought they had a chance..    however they did play well at times..   for a couple of lucky games that A-Rod pulled out of his butt we would have beaten the Yankees worse than balto thought..      i think we will get close to 75 wins this year..    the veterans know that they have to step up if they want to play baseball next year for somebody..   if they cant play for the O's do you think anybody else is gonna want them? .. MacPhail has made it clear he is getting rid of dead weight..  now Bedard was not dead weight but i believe the trade had to be done and we came out looking great..    Tejada was dead weight and again i thought we did ok on that trade..   not spetacular but it did make a statement that i thought woke people up.   we are gonna lose a few contracts off the books at year's end and will have extra capital to go after a few folks..   like everybody on the O's site has been posting 2010 will be a good one for us but like i said above i dont think we are gonna roll over this year for anybody ..    Go O's 



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Posted on: March 29, 2008 10:39 am

Don't sleep on the O's

PHSGOLFCOACH ~ I never said anything about them getting higher than 3rd, I said that they have a decent shot at making 3rd. The Jays have a good pitching staff, but injuries will happen to Burnett and Halladay most likely again, along with there offense. The Rays sent down there phenom prospect Evan Longoria, which give the O's a nice shot right out of the gate to get a good lead on them. Longo will not be in the bigs for a good 2-3 months.

 



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Posted on: March 29, 2008 10:43 am

Don't sleep on the O's

(it could have been 10-8, but I will not get into an argument about umpires here).

Baltoboi ~ If you are talking about the game that was postponed for a month, I was at the original game. We absolutley got screwed out of that deal.

The O's can compete well against everyone in the division except the Sox. We have a few Yanks killers in Burres and Loewen.



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Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: March 29, 2008 12:23 pm

Don't sleep on the O's

That's the one.



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Since: Mar 23, 2008
Posted on: March 29, 2008 1:24 pm

Don't sleep on the O's

man this speaks to me. im an o's fan and i hate people ragging on them!



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Since: Jul 24, 2007
Posted on: March 29, 2008 4:08 pm

Don't sleep on the O's

I am not hear to rip on the Orioles on bit, but Chicago Cubs fans are well aware of the capabilities of Andy McPhail (spelled F.A.I.L.) to bring down a ball club with terrible roster moves.  While I think the Tejada trade was a good one, I am not so sure about the Erik Berdard trade.  Berdard got hurt but he showed a lot of promise for a team that didn't have any dominant pitchers.  Prospects will not always turn out.  McPhail was horrible on prospects with the Cubs.  The only way this guy should have a job in major league baseball, is if hes pushing the hotdog cart around the lower deck.  Good Luck this year.  A.L. East is the toughest division in baseball.



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